Metropolitan Hierotheos of Nafpaktos -- Dogma & Mystery

It is essential to make a distinction between dogma and mystery. The mystery of the Holy Trinity is experienced, to the extent that this is possible, by the glorified human being and is different from the dogma, which is the rational formulation concerning the mystery of the Holy Trinity or the revelation. This distinction is fundamental to Orthodox theology.
 ”God is always a mystery. The mystery of the Holy Trinity must be separated from the dogma of the Holy Trinity. The dogma is not the same as the mystery.”

This means that the dogma can be understood rationally, but not the mystery. There is confusion on this issue in some contemporary theologians and a serious problem arises. For instance, when we speak about the Holy Trinity, we are referring to the dogma, the terminology concerning the Holy Trinity, as formulated by the holy Fathers of the Church (essence, hypostases, hypostatic property, and so on) and not to the mystery of the Holy Trinity. We cannot speak about “the mystery of the Holy Trinity”, which is inconceivable to human reason, but we can speak about “the dogma concerning the mystery of the Holy Trinity”. 
“One needs clearly to distinguish the dogma from the mystery. Understanding the mystery (rationally), which is impossible, is completely different from understanding the dogma, which is possible. 
There is so much confusion in recent theology, under the influence of Russian theology, that anyone would think that an expert on dogmatics or a theologian of the Orthodox Church is someone who reflects deeply and immerses himself in the mystery of the Holy Trinity, and attempts to put it into words. The patristic tradition has absolutely no connection with this sort of perception of theology.”
The names and concepts that a God-seeing saint formulates when necessary are one thing and the experience that he has acquired of this reality is another.
“What is important is this perception of the relationship that names and concepts have with reality. The mystery remains a mystery. We do not put the mystery into words, but the dogma about the mystery. We speak about the dogma about the mystery of the Holy Trinity; not about the mystery of the Holy Trinity.”
The same can be said of the distinction between Holy Scripture and God. Holy Scripture consists of the words and concepts expressing the experience of the mystery of God, and these words and concepts are not identical to God. God is not identified with the words and concepts, as will be emphasised in another part of this book. Identifying God with them leads to idolatry.
“For this reason you must have a firm grasp of this distinction between the mystery and the dogma. They are not the same thing, because theology, dogma and noetic prayer will be abolished: they are temporary in character. It is idolatry for us to identify God with words and concepts about Him. From this point of view, you can take the existentialism of certain (at least in my opinion) pseudo-theologians and throw them all into the waste paper bin. Because the only correct existential philosophy from the Orthodox point of view is the atheistic one and not the theistic.”
Even this viewpoint, that we can understand dogma, ought to be interpreted from the perspective that we can have a rational understanding of the purpose, origin and history of the dogma, but not of the dogma in itself or the spiritual meaning it conveys.
“To say that we understand dogmas is foolishness. No one understands the dogma of the Holy Trinity, because the dogma of the Holy Trinity is not intended to be understood. Anyone who gives the impression that he understands the dogma of the Holy Trinity is a fraud. This is the worst deception.
It is possible to understand the purpose of the dogma, its origin and its history. But it is impossible for someone to understand the dogma itself, because understanding the dogma means understanding the mystery. The dogma and the mystery are different things. They must never be confused.
Dogma exists as man’s guide. It is a signpost that shows him where he ought to be going. When, however, he reaches his destination, it is done away with. For that reason, dogma is a guide for those who are passing through purification, and carries on being a guide for those who continue in illumination. It is a guide and nothing more. But those who are at the stage of illumination know that one day dogma will be abolished.
When someone reaches glorification, dogma is abolished. Dogma ceases to exist. Noetic prayer itself stops. Although the Spirit of God prays within man with psalms, hymns or phrases — the Spirit Himself prays with human words within man — when man attains to glorification even this noetic prayer of the Holy Spirit ceases.
This is what the Apostle Paul says: ‘When that which is perfect comes, then prophecies will cease,’ in other words, theology will come to an end; ‘tongues will cease,’ that is, the various kinds of noetic prayer will stop; and‘knowledge will vanish away,’ (cf. 1 Cor. 13:8-13), in other words, what are nowadays called dogmas and theology. All these things come to an end in glorification.
Certainly, when someone returns from glorification, when he ceases to have the vision of God, he continues praying once again with dogmas and the Spirit again prays within him as before. In this life the state of glorification is not permanent.”
Even when God is revealed to man, He still remains a mystery. Man knows from experience that God exists, but he does not know ‘how’ He exists.
“Neither the incarnation nor the dogma of the Holy Trinity can be understood. For that reason, even when God is revealed, then especially, He remains a mystery. The human nous cannot penetrate this mystery of uncreatedness, and how what is uncreated took flesh and is united with human nature. We only know, because it is clear from the experience of Pentecost and the Transfiguration and from St John the Forerunner’s experience of glorification at the Baptism, which is a revelation, the supreme revelation, of the Holy Trinity; that God remains a mystery.
 As this is so, it is nonsensical for us sit there asserting, like the Protestants and the Franks, that as time passes we have a deeper understanding of the dogmas of the Church. What does a deeper understanding mean, when, in the experience of glorification, of Pentecost, dogma has been abolished and the concepts and words that constitute dogmas have been done away with? The experience of glorification is not dogma. It is higher than dogma. Dogma is the expression of the mystery, but expressing the mystery is not the same as comprehending the mystery, because ‘It is impossible to express God and even more impossible to conceive Him.’ That is the end of the matter.”

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Κυπριανός Χριστοδουλίδης είπε...

Η αποσύνδεση Δόγματος καί Μυστηρίου

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[... Dogma exists as man’s guide. It is a signpost that shows him where he ought to ίbe going. When, however, he reaches his destination, it is done away with. For that reason, dogma is a guide for those who are passing through purification, and carries on being a guide for those who continue in illumination. It is a guide and nothing more. But those who are at the stage of illumination know that one day dogma will be abolished.]
Συγγραφεύς ο Ιερόθεος Βλάχος καί μεταφράζω : «Τό δόγμα υπάρχει σάν "ανθρώπινος οδηγός". Είναι ένα ενδεικτικό σημείο που (τού) δείχνει εκεί που (πρέπει νά) πηγαίνει. (Καί) όταν, οπωσδήποτε, φθάνει στόν προορισμό του, τά έχει καταφέρει. Γι΄ αυτό τόν λόγο, τό δόγμα είναι οδηγός γιά εκείνους, που διαπερνούν τήν κάθαρση, καί συνεχίζουν τήν πορεία πρός τόν φωτισμό. Είναι (τό δόγμα) ένας οδηγός καί τίποτα περισσότερο. Αλλά, όσοι βρίσκονται σ΄ αυτό τό στάδιο (τού φωτισμού) γνωρίζουν ότι κάποια μέρα τό δόγμα θά εξαφανισθεί - ή θά σβήσει)».
Συμπληρώνω, διότι τότε ο άνθρωπος έχει φθάσει στήν θέωση !

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Μέ αυτές καί πολλές άλλες παρόμοιες ανοησίες οι "πεφωτισμένοι" ΄μας΄ αποφάσισαν νά μάς κάνουν όλους φωτισμένους από τόν δαίμονα τού σκότους. Έτσι, πήραν τήν απόφαση νά ενώσουν (μέ τό κτιστό φώς τού σκότους) όλες τίς ψευδοεκκλησίες. Συμπεριλαμβάνω εδώ καί τήν καθ΄ ημάς Νεορθοδοξία. Τό δόγμα θά χαθεί, μάς λένε, καί ήδη διαπιστώνουμε ότι μάς εγκατέλειψε. Συνοδά, χάθηκε η Μία Εκκλησία καί τό λαλήσαν είς αυτήν, διά τών Προφητών, Άγιον Πνεύμα.

Σταδιοποίησαν τήν οδό τού αγιασμού τών ανθρώπων (σημ. προφανώς αντιγράφοντας μύστες τού μυστικισμού, καθοδηγούμενοι από τούς Ιλλουμινάτι), ακριβώς, όπως σταδιοποίησαν τόν μηχανισμό τού θανάτου : πρώτη φάση η απώλεια αισθήσεως, δεύτερη η κατάργηση τής εγκεφαλικής δραστηριότητας καί τέλος καρδιακή παύση, λόγω ανεπαρκούς οξυγώνωσης τών ιστών (χυμών) τού σώματος.
Φυσικά, λεκτική καί μόνο είναι αυτή η αδρή περιγραφή - κατά στάδια - τού μηχανισμού τού θανάτου. Όσον αφορά δέ τόν αγιασμό (κατά χάριν) ή θέωση, που προτείνουν οι ανοηταίνοντες "υψηλής συχνότητας" θεολόγοι, όπως ο Ιερόθεος Βλάχος, ο Ζηζιούλας καί έτεροι αντιγράφοι αυτών, δηλαδή, τήν κάθαρση, τόν φωτισμό καί τήν θέωση, τό πρόβλημα είναι ότι κάθαρση χωρίς φωτισμό δέν γίνεται. Ο φωτισμός προηγείται ! Εδώ όμως έχουμε τόν ψευδέστατο εωσφορικό φωτισμό, τόν άγγελο τού σκότους, ο οποίος, μετασχηματιζόμενος σέ φώς, προτάσσει τήν κάθαρση ! Καί ερωτάται : Δίχως φώς τί μπορείς νά καθαρίσεις ;

Πέραν όμως αυτού, υπάρχει ακόμη ένα βασικό ερώτημα. Καί είναι τούτο : Νά μάς πούν πότε πρόλαβε, ο εκ δεξιών συσταυρωθείς μέ τόν Κύριο ληστής, νά περάσει από τά στάδια κάθαρση, φωτισμός, θέωση ; Είναι ή δέν είναι αποκυήματα νοσηρής φαντασίας, αυτά που γράφει ο Ιερόθεος Βλάχος καί άλλοι ;

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Κυπριανός Χριστοδουλίδης είπε...

Τέλος, ούτε τό δόγμα θά χαθεί ούτε, ακόμη, γιά έναν σοβαρότερο λόγο, ο άγιος Τριαδικός Θεός θά εκχωρήσει τήν θέση Του στόν "ένα θεό γιά όλους", μέ τίς πάμπολλες διόδους, τριόδους καί λοιπές άλλες ατραπούς, που όλες οδηγούν στήν απώλεια τής ψυχής πρός κατίσχυση τών δαιμόνων καί τού κτιστού φωτισμού των.
Η πρωτοφανούς θρασύτητας άποψη [”God is always a mystery. The mystery of the Holy Trinity must be separated from the dogma of the Holy Trinity. The dogma is not the same as the mystery.”] ότι ο Θεός είνα πάντα ένα μυστήριο, ενώ τό δόγμα δέν είναι, έρχεται ευθέως αντιθετη πρός τόν κατά Χάριν αγιασμό (θέωση) τού ανθρώπου ή/καί ανθρώπων. Τί πραγματεύεται τό Δόγμα ; Τό μυστήριο τής θείας Ενανθρωπήσεως δέν είναι τό κυρίως ζητούμενο ; Αδιανόητη μού φαίνεται η αποσύνδεση, εξ Ορθδόξου επόψεως, Μυστηρίου καί Δόγματος.


«1 Καὶ εἶδον οὐρανὸν καινὸν καὶ γῆν καινήν· ὁ γὰρ πρῶτος οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ πρώτη γῆ ἀπῆλθον, καὶ ἡ θάλασσα οὐκ ἔστιν ἔτι. 2 καὶ τὴν πόλιν τὴν ἁγίαν Ἰερουσαλὴμ καινὴν εἶδον καταβαίνουσαν ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ἀπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἡτοιμασμένην ὡς νύμφην κεκοσμημένην τῷ ἀνδρὶ αὐτῆς. ( ... ) 22 Καὶ ναὸν οὐκ εἶδον ἐν αὐτῇ· ὁ γὰρ Κύριος ὁ Θεὸς ὁ παντοκράτωρ ναὸς αὐτῆς ἐστι, καὶ τὸ ἀρνίον. 23 καὶ ἡ πόλις οὐ χρείαν ἔχει τοῦ ἡλίου οὐδὲ τῆς σελήνης ἵνα φαίνωσιν αὐτῇ· ἡ γὰρ δόξα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐφώτισεν αὐτήν, καὶ ὁ λύχνος αὐτῆς τὸ ἀρνίον. 24 καὶ περιπατήσουσι τὰ ἔθνη διὰ τοῦ φωτὸς αὐτῆς, καὶ οἱ βασιλεῖς τῆς γῆς φέρουσι τὴν δόξαν καὶ τὴν τιμὴν αὐτῶν εἰς αὐτήν, 25 καὶ οἱ πυλῶνες αὐτῆς οὐ μὴ κλεισθῶσιν ἡμέρας· νὺξ γὰρ οὐκ ἔσται ἐκεῖ· 26 καὶ οἴσουσι τὴν δόξαν καὶ τὴν τιμὴν τῶν ἐθνῶν εἰς αὐτήν. 27 καὶ οὐ μὴ εἰσέλθῃ εἰς αὐτὴν πᾶν κοινὸν καὶ ὁ ποιῶν βδέλυγμα καὶ ψεῦδος, εἰ μὴ οἱ γεγραμμένοι ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τῆς ζωῆς τοῦ ἀρνίου.» (Απ. κα΄).

Αυτό είναι τό όντως Φώς, τό «φῶς ἐκ φωτός», καί όχι τά παραληρήματα τών αιρετικών, πλέον, Νεο-Ορθοδόξων.

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24, Ιούνιος 2020